From QMU to Craiglang
Actors Jane McCarry and Mark Cox reminisce about student life at Queen Margaret College and their years starring in two of Scotland鈥檚 best loved TV comedies, 鈥楥hewing the Fat鈥 and 鈥楽till Game鈥.
It鈥檚 a November Monday morning. Jane and Mark should be preparing for an evening show of their new stage show 鈥楽till Gaun鈥, but this has been postponed due to the coronavirus pandemic.
Instead, they are at their respective homes in Glasgow, joining a Zoom call to talk all things QMU (or QMC as it was when they studied there).
鈥淢ark, I was going to phone you, but I鈥檒l just tell you both since you鈥檙e here,鈥 says Jane, as she recounts a hilarious story from the previous day. It鈥檚 just like watching an episode of 鈥楽till Game鈥, Isa is in full swing and Tam can鈥檛 get a word in edgeways.
They鈥檙e both roaring with laughter by the end and it鈥檚 apparent how good friends Jane and Mark have become.
Jane tells me:
"We knew each other at QMC, but we didn鈥檛 really become good friends until after."
Mark adds:
"We kept getting cast together and our paths kept crossing but it wasn鈥檛 until our late 20鈥檚 that we started becoming closer friends."
Starting at the beginning - Youth Theatre and ushering at the Tron Theatre in Glasgow saw Mark鈥檚 interest in drama grow.
We talk about how his careers advisor at school completely ignored his desire to go to drama college, and instead, encouraged him to apply for an apprenticeship.
"Work always felt like a stopgap rather than a career. The family wasn鈥檛 very keen on me giving up an apprenticeship to go to drama school, but I eventually got their support to go and do it. Lots of people don鈥檛 get the opportunity to go and do what they really want to do. That鈥檚 always been very important to me, that I got the chance."
Jane鈥檚 journey to QMC was a little different 鈥 first appearing in several shows at Glasgow Arts Centre (GAC) and then completing a one-year drama course at Clydebank College. She recalls how Robin Wilson (then Director at GAC, now lecturer at QMU) helped her prepare her audition pieces. Both had the real feeling that Queen Margaret was different and a 鈥榖it more them鈥.
Mark goes on to say:
"QMC suited us perfectly. We are theatricals but we鈥檙e grounded. We鈥檝e got families, dugs and cats and everything else. QMC felt like home."
And right on cue, Mark nips away for a few seconds to let his new kittens back into the house. Reminiscing about their fondest memories, both Jane and Mark express their love for Bert Bracewell. 鈥淏ert was the fencing and stage-fighting teacher and an absolute legend. He was one of my favourite people in the world. Wee Bert 鈥 I just loved him.鈥
Mark adds: 鈥淗e made everyone feel like they could be a world champion.鈥 This isn鈥檛 the first, and I doubt the last, I鈥檝e heard about Bert Bracewell, who sadly passed away in 2020. He has clearly left a lasting impression on all those he taught.
Jane and Mark fondly mention other lecturers: Lynn Bains, Clive Perry, Christine Raffaelli and Marillyn Gray, to name a few. They reflect on their training and what was expected of them; at least three 12-hour days a week and lateness was just not accepted - three strikes and you were out! 鈥淲e had to do a 30 minute physical warm-up every morning,鈥 remarks Mark.
Both Jane and Mark are acutely aware of the discipline they received at QMC and how important this was for preparing them for successful careers.
Jane came back to QMU six-years after receiving her diploma to study another year to gain a degree.
"I was a different student second round, rather than thinking about getting my 20 pence on the pool table and doing the minimum, I was the pain in the a*** that was always asking questions!"
We move on to talk about their roles in 鈥楽till Game鈥. Mark describes how he first got involved with the sitcom.
"I was out drinking with my friend Paul Riley (Winston), he says to me that Ford (Kiernan) and Greg (Hemphill) (creators of Still Game and 鈥楥hewin鈥 the Fat鈥) were writing for the telly and needed a couple of characters. I appeared in a couple of Chewin鈥 the Fat sketches and this led to Still Game."
Jane鈥檚 journey to Still Game came from having worked with Ford and Greg on a number of sketch and stage shows early in her career.
鈥淚 actually played a home help who was very similar to Isa in a comedy sketch show called 鈥楶ulp Video鈥. I then did the radio Chewin鈥 the Fat. I remember, I鈥檇 just had a baby, I was greetin鈥 because I hadn鈥檛 slept for weeks and then Julie (Greg鈥檚 wife) came to visit and said: 鈥淛ane, don鈥檛 worry, Ford and Greg are writing a new show and they鈥檙e writing you a part as an old woman called Isa.鈥
Both Jane and Mark skip straight to talking about the Live Shows at the SSE Hydro in Glasgow. This saw 21 shows in 2014 for 鈥楽till Game Live鈥, 15 in 2017 for 鈥楽till Game Live 2鈥 and eight shows for 鈥楽till Game Live: The Final Farewell鈥 in 2019. Every performance was a 13,000 sell-out audience 鈥 playing to over half-a-million people.
"We love live theatre; we鈥檙e trained stage actors. There鈥檚 much more fun to be had doing a live show."
鈥淒uring the last dress rehearsal on the afternoon before the first show, I tripped and fell on stage. I smashed my glasses, got a massive black eye, cut my face and I later discovered that I鈥檇 fractured my wrist. But, what could I do? I just had to go on stage and do the show.鈥 I can see the baffled look on Jane鈥檚 face as she replays the moment in her head.
This 鈥榯he show must go on鈥 attitude was clearly developed at QMC all those years ago.
Mark continues: 鈥淎t the same dress rehearsal, I鈥檓 doing my one-page monologue with not a person in the place and I remember saying to myself: 鈥淭his is going to be a f**king disaster. Who is going to come and be able to listen to this?鈥 But, the audio was sensational and we had these massive high-definition screens. Technology helped it become a theatre show. You could not do that 20 years ago. That was quite amazing.鈥
With all the hype surrounding the first live show, Jane reveals the intense nerves she was experiencing just moments before the show.
"The music was blaring; I could feel it in my chest - it was like a rock concert. I said to Mark, What if it鈥檚 terrible? What if I forget my lines? I never worry about things like that but because it was so crazy, these doubts were there. And then Mark says to me: Jane, you can do anything in those clothes. And that was the key. We all knew these characters so well. We were all so comfortable, no matter what."
鈥淲e got a round of applause for just walking onto the stage at every show - it was sensational,鈥 Mark exclaims with a huge smile, hands held high clapping above his head and follows up with a whoop and a cheer.
鈥淚 loved the Hydro, it was fantastic. But even when you鈥檙e touring around in an old Corpy van doing TIE (Theatre in Education), you鈥檙e still having the time of your life. Even if I hadn鈥檛 done anything except for that, it was worth going to drama school - just to get up in the morning to do something you love," said Jane.
鈥淥h Mark, tell the story about when I said look who鈥檚 in the audience,鈥 says Jane with raised eyebrows.
鈥淚鈥檝e never liked seeing the audience so I don鈥檛 wear my glasses,鈥 Mark explains. 鈥淎t the Hydro you can obviously see there is an audience 鈥榗ause there鈥檚 thousands of them, but it just looks like a big blob to me. Jane says to me: 鈥淒o you see who鈥檚 in the 5th row? Peter Kay and Paddy McGuinness!鈥 and I say: 鈥淪hut Up! You鈥檙e winding me up.鈥
They reminisce about Peter Kay and Paddy McGuinness coming back stage and how they discovered that Peter is a Still Game fanatic 鈥 he knows every character, episode name, release dates 鈥 the lot.
Jane also delights in telling me what Peter said to her when he and Paddy joined the cast for dinner: 鈥淚t was the most exciting thing ever.鈥 Jane does a very good impression of Peter Kay: 鈥淓h, eh Paddy? Get me, having me tea with Granny Murray!鈥 A reference to Jane鈥檚 role as Granny Murray in the children鈥檚 TV show 鈥楳e Too鈥.
We finish with Mark remembering that U2 wanted the Hydro but they couldn鈥檛 get it鈥濃ause we added extra shows? Mad!鈥 Once again we鈥檙e all chuckling.
It鈥檚 not many people who can say that they鈥檝e kept U2 out of a venue, but Jane and Mark are one of the few.
Jane McCarry 鈥 Diploma in Drama 1992 and BA Acting 1999
Mark Cox 鈥 Diploma in Drama 1993.
Jane McCarry/ Mark Cox (Characters Tam & Isa from 'Still Game') - image courtesy of BBC Scotland/BBC Studios/Alan Peebles